Michele, after bleaching pic and question.

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Erica G.

Jan 13, 2014

Erica G.

Okay so here is the pic after bleaching last night. it is actually a pale yellow, like the inside of a banana. I can't believe how hard that special effects and manic panic are to get out even using bleach...my hair still bleeds out a yellow color from the orange that was previously in there..are pastel colors an option for pale yellow hair or does it have to be white cause if white is what I need, I won't put my hair through more damage. I'm lucky there's no breakage as it is lol.

Danielle L.

Jan 13, 2014

Danielle L.

You need a really purple shampoo! Shimmer lights at Sally will take out yellow and orange here is my before and after

Veronica M.

Jan 13, 2014

Veronica M.

Your pretty! You look like a mix of Jennifer love Hewitt and Victoria beckham.

Erica G.

Jan 13, 2014

Erica G.

I bought the Paul mitchel purple shampoo and I find it does nothing lol.

Jessica H.

Jan 13, 2014

Jessica H.

Pale yellow should be fine for pastels, taking it past pale yellow leads to severe damage and melting or breakage. A purple shampoo can neutralize the yellow a bit more but this would probably be fine. What colour pastel?

Kelly V.

Jan 13, 2014

Kelly V.

I would strand test a pastel first. it may or may not come up. a toner would be your best bet to remove some unwanted yellow...use something ash or purple based. instead of a purple shampoo, see if you can find a purple conditioner. that actually deposits color. Aveda makes a nice one for yellows called Blue Malva.

Danielle L.

Jan 13, 2014

Danielle L.

The Paul Mitchell won't work it's not purple enough!

Natalie T.

Jan 13, 2014

Natalie T.

You may be fine with that color base, but I would still try toning it with a violet based toner before dying it. Just using a toning shampoo alone never removes enough yellow for me, I must use an actual toner to get rid of my yellow tones when bleaching. It should take out a lot of the yellow and leave you with a more light, possibly white base to work with.

Erica G.

Jan 13, 2014

Erica G.

But what is a toner...like where do you get that.

Erica G.

Jan 13, 2014

Erica G.

I was thinking lilac or sea foam green.

Natalie T.

Jan 13, 2014

Natalie T.

If you're in the states, you can buy one at Sally's. I use Wella Color Charm in T18 (lightest ash blonde) with a 20 volume developer. It should counteract the yellow tones in the hair (by depositing violet tones) which should neutralize the color and leave you with a whiter, less yellow base to work with.

Michele S.

Jan 13, 2014

Michele S.

Something you can use for cheap toner without buying actual toner is original Dawn.. Toner you can get at sally.

Michele S.

Jan 13, 2014

Michele S.

That around the color I have to get mine everytime I'm going from natural color to any bright color. I would think it should be ok for either of the colors you are thinking of doing

Erica G.

Jan 13, 2014

Erica G.

I don't live in the US. I live in Canada. and a toner will say toner on it?? or can you use a white dye. also, does it damage your hair...I'm worried about the, especially after bleaching.

Jessica H.

Jan 13, 2014

Jessica H.

If you do lilac you would be fine since it will tone the hair as well, with seafoam you may end up with it being a teensy bit more green with the yellow of the hair.

Kelly V.

Jan 13, 2014

Kelly V.

Erica, the lilac may come out a little muddy, same with the green. because pastel dyes are so.light, any remaining pigment in the hair is going to effect the outcome. a toner can be any semi permanent color, (or sometimes called deposit only color) you want to get a light ash blonde or something violet based. I would go to your local beauty supply store and ask them to help you.

Michele S.

Jan 13, 2014

Michele S.

Erica get a bottle of deep conditioner. That's what I ended up doing since I had to bleach my hair so much when I thought I was going red and green.

Sunny J.

Jan 13, 2014

Sunny J.

The toning conditioner that comes with the new L'Or?al (?) extreme platinum colors is great. Like, turned my platinum purple in under 5 minutes great! I used the very lightest they have now - name is something like "extreme platinum". My hair is pretty short and I get at least 3 uses from a tube so even if you don't use the dye/bleach, the conditioner is probably worth it

Libby D.

Jan 16, 2014

Libby D.

Provoke touch of silver purple shampoo will help lift the yellow. It definitely helped me and its cheaper than a lot of purple shampoos :)

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