I have LL3 (a rich red, similar to MAC Ruby Woo, Too Faced Eastwood Red) and LL11 (a deep plum, similar to Topshop Depth, MAC Smoked Purple) and they are gorgeous! They are lovely to wear on their own or under a lipstick. They are very, very pigmented and do not feather or smudge and stop lipsticks feathering or smudging. They can be drying (I am yet to find a lipliner that isn't), so I'd suggest wearing a little lipbalm underneath. But I love these lipliners and will definitely be buying more.