I've NEVER bought a foundation kit ever! but I've been looking into it. I've been trained in Airbrush, so really Throw the brands at me! right now I've been using the Revlon Color stay, but i love the easy-ness of a pallet. whats been your experience? whats the best for its price?
This is my professional kit. These are the types of products you'll want to use if you're looking to get those "next level" clients. If you're saying "the best of the best" and following with a Revlon product, you're in trouble! For a professional kit, only use professional products. If price is a concern, look into YABY, Cinema Secrets, etc, all available through Mary's store - camerareadycosmetics.com.
For a personal kit? Different story entirely; but I will say you get what you pay for. I won't go into it, but drugstore brands are notorious for using carcinogenic and toxic ingredients, not to mention they test on animals. Peta.org. Scary stuff.
Jordan- ive worked at a salon for year, and i havent been Freelance, they supplied me with foundation, im working with what i have. i asked my close Client base i work on a lot what they perfered i used until i settled on a foundation set. hence why im using revlon. lol the rest of my Kit is pro products but im sure people will agree its cheaper, and easier to obtain shadows liners and etc first., so thats what ive done. this is the final step. thats why im asking.
Shelby - that's great that you're upgrading! Check out Yaby for liquids and Cinema Secrets for creams - you won't break the bank and you'll get the good stuff!
<<I won't go into it, but drugstore brands are notorious for using carcinogenic and toxic ingredients>>
I will get into it, because this is a bullshit claim. If cosmetics companies, no matter what their price point, did use toxic ingredients, they wouldn't be for sale. Organizations like EWG (Endlessly Wrong... oops, I mean Environmental Working Group) and their sister org, CFSC (Campaign for Scaring Consumers... I mean, Safe Cosmetics) like to scaremonger and, personally, I think their real objective is to put people like you out of a job and get the rest of us to stop using cosmetics. Not to mention they don't have the science to back up their claims.
@Shelly - actually they do. There are over 2000 untested ingredients used in cosmetics today because the FDA does not regulate cosmetics. I don't collect my information from EWG or CFSC, or some other website that anyone could have written.
I see that you have an opinion on PETA as well - if that doesn't convince you that drugstore brands have issues, just read the label:) No cruelty-free statements, LISTED known carcinogens - check your MSDS, and while we're at it you can find some recent lawsuits in public record that have landed several major companies in hot water over some very immoral behavior including racism. The science is absolutely there...to say otherwise is actually laughable. There are brands that LITERALLY use butane in them, like Sally Hansen - are you actually saying that butane is safe to spray at your face? We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, because that kind of thinking is foreign to me. I'll go on continuing to not spray my clients in the face with lighter fluid. You're right, it's totally a conspiracy!
Also, let's not go into keratin, which is sold and contains formaldehyde and has actually harmed a lot of people. According to your sources, formaldehyde isn't toxic? Lofty conclusion for someone that claims there is no "science" to these claims. Herbal Essences shampoo is basically crude oil. Hydroquinone, a skin lightener, is a known toxin.
To makeup artists this is a fantastic resource http://thestoryofstuff.org. It's actually a very clear depiction of how cosmetics are made, and the problems with toxicity (toxins in, toxins out) that absolutely exist in the industry currently. I'm no naturalist, I use plenty of imperfect brands, but it would be silly to ignore some of the obvious toxins in cosmetics. I've walked a mile or two in this industry and have seen this stuff for myself - to each his own, but I didn't get all of my info from a website, I did it by working with top brands and high profile clients for 10 years, researching HANDS-ON what goes into cosmetics and ingredients that have been proven scientifically to be dangerous.
Believe what you want, but it is a FACT that products today contain potentially fatal ingredients.
@Shelby - airbrush isn't better or worse - it's different. Another option. Always good to start with a good set of foundations and work to an airbrush later.
okay most my free lance right now is film and ive had others tell me a cream or liquid thin-ly applied is best for film. but thank you everyone for your opinions its really helpful! I didnt mean to start anything :/
@ Jordan- After reading what you wrote I am seriously considering throwing my lower end makeup away and investing in better quality. Too bad makeup artists, beautylish followers, make up enthusiasts/ what have you couldn't petition to make some regulations as to what goes inside makeup and can be sold to the public. I LOVE that I got to read your comment I am going to fully look into this issue! Thank you for the tip!
You know, I thought it would take FOREVER to build a kit, and it took a year or two to get a good situation going for myself...and within a few years I had an amazing kit. I continue to add to it every day!
You know, whatever you believe about drugstore makeup is a personal decision, but from an outside perspective it can be very bad. Particularly BECAUSE this information exists. Some of your higher end clients will reject a makeup artist that they don't see as professional. Again...it's not an issue of money, it's an issue of standards. I get heated about this stuff, but I only say it to help - there's a lot of misinformation going around that has destroyed careers. At the end of the day this is a business, and sadly it's not all fun and games and roses and sunshine lol.
My traveling kit was valued at about $20k before a flight, but that included a few airbrush systems and about 4 full sets of brushes - not to mention more eye shadows than I'll ever use. I carry about half of that regularly. My home kit has now dominated an entire room and I am constantly giving things away. lol. A decent kit - top to bottom from scratch (including brushes) - will cost several hundred to a thousand dollars. If you took one or two wedding jobs, that kit pays for itself! People make a big deal about kits, but a couple jobs can hook you up with a really great situation. Invest in a starter kit, they are great to work with in the meantime and you can easily build on them later!
Im glad you brought all that up jordan! Something i would never have thought about and validates my decision to save and only buy professional products! Thankyou!!
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Jan 22, 2012
Shelby T.
I've NEVER bought a foundation kit ever! but I've been looking into it. I've been trained in Airbrush, so really Throw the brands at me! right now I've been using the Revlon Color stay, but i love the easy-ness of a pallet. whats been your experience? whats the best for its price?
Jan 22, 2012
Soma S.
Makeupmania.com and camerareadycosmetics.com carry many examples of these. Check them out and the brands they offer!
Jan 22, 2012
Kimberly M.
RCMA, graftobian
Jan 23, 2012
Shelby T.
thank you ! Soma S. and Kimberly M. :)
Jan 23, 2012
Courtney A.
I also recommend graftobian. I have the warm and the cool palettes and I have every shade I could ever need. Amazing value for money
Jan 23, 2012
Kate C.
I would say the best of the best are the Eve Pearl quads, the RCMA palletes or the Graftobian ones mentioned above
Jan 24, 2012
Shelby T.
would you rate then above investing in airbush foundation sets?
Jan 24, 2012
Jessica S.
graftobian for sure :) My clients love it
Jan 24, 2012
Shelby T.
Thank you Jessica S. !
Jan 25, 2012
Jordan L.
http://givegoodface.com/2009/07/wha...
This is my professional kit. These are the types of products you'll want to use if you're looking to get those "next level" clients. If you're saying "the best of the best" and following with a Revlon product, you're in trouble! For a professional kit, only use professional products. If price is a concern, look into YABY, Cinema Secrets, etc, all available through Mary's store - camerareadycosmetics.com.
For a personal kit? Different story entirely; but I will say you get what you pay for. I won't go into it, but drugstore brands are notorious for using carcinogenic and toxic ingredients, not to mention they test on animals. Peta.org. Scary stuff.
Jan 25, 2012
Soma S.
Jordan, I love your channel! Thanks for sharing, I love what's in your kit!
Jan 25, 2012
Shelby T.
Jordan- ive worked at a salon for year, and i havent been Freelance, they supplied me with foundation, im working with what i have. i asked my close Client base i work on a lot what they perfered i used until i settled on a foundation set. hence why im using revlon. lol the rest of my Kit is pro products but im sure people will agree its cheaper, and easier to obtain shadows liners and etc first., so thats what ive done. this is the final step. thats why im asking.
Jan 25, 2012
Jasmine P.
Jordan, your kit is a DREAM. I just drooled all over the information you put in that post. It's fantastic.
Jan 26, 2012
Jordan L.
Shelby - that's great that you're upgrading! Check out Yaby for liquids and Cinema Secrets for creams - you won't break the bank and you'll get the good stuff!
Jan 26, 2012
Shelly T.
<<I won't go into it, but drugstore brands are notorious for using carcinogenic and toxic ingredients>>
I will get into it, because this is a bullshit claim. If cosmetics companies, no matter what their price point, did use toxic ingredients, they wouldn't be for sale. Organizations like EWG (Endlessly Wrong... oops, I mean Environmental Working Group) and their sister org, CFSC (Campaign for Scaring Consumers... I mean, Safe Cosmetics) like to scaremonger and, personally, I think their real objective is to put people like you out of a job and get the rest of us to stop using cosmetics. Not to mention they don't have the science to back up their claims.
http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org
http://personalcaretruth.com
And don't get me started on those hypocrites at PETA, either.
Jan 26, 2012
Shelby T.
@jordan L. thank you hunny i will check them out.
So no one would rather have air brush? interesting
@Jordan L and Shelly Thank you both for the loads of information, i think my heads going to explode lol
Jan 26, 2012
Jordan L.
@Shelly - actually they do. There are over 2000 untested ingredients used in cosmetics today because the FDA does not regulate cosmetics. I don't collect my information from EWG or CFSC, or some other website that anyone could have written.
I see that you have an opinion on PETA as well - if that doesn't convince you that drugstore brands have issues, just read the label:) No cruelty-free statements, LISTED known carcinogens - check your MSDS, and while we're at it you can find some recent lawsuits in public record that have landed several major companies in hot water over some very immoral behavior including racism. The science is absolutely there...to say otherwise is actually laughable. There are brands that LITERALLY use butane in them, like Sally Hansen - are you actually saying that butane is safe to spray at your face? We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, because that kind of thinking is foreign to me. I'll go on continuing to not spray my clients in the face with lighter fluid. You're right, it's totally a conspiracy!
Also, let's not go into keratin, which is sold and contains formaldehyde and has actually harmed a lot of people. According to your sources, formaldehyde isn't toxic? Lofty conclusion for someone that claims there is no "science" to these claims. Herbal Essences shampoo is basically crude oil. Hydroquinone, a skin lightener, is a known toxin.
To makeup artists this is a fantastic resource http://thestoryofstuff.org. It's actually a very clear depiction of how cosmetics are made, and the problems with toxicity (toxins in, toxins out) that absolutely exist in the industry currently. I'm no naturalist, I use plenty of imperfect brands, but it would be silly to ignore some of the obvious toxins in cosmetics. I've walked a mile or two in this industry and have seen this stuff for myself - to each his own, but I didn't get all of my info from a website, I did it by working with top brands and high profile clients for 10 years, researching HANDS-ON what goes into cosmetics and ingredients that have been proven scientifically to be dangerous.
Believe what you want, but it is a FACT that products today contain potentially fatal ingredients.
@Shelby - airbrush isn't better or worse - it's different. Another option. Always good to start with a good set of foundations and work to an airbrush later.
Jan 26, 2012
Shelby T.
okay most my free lance right now is film and ive had others tell me a cream or liquid thin-ly applied is best for film. but thank you everyone for your opinions its really helpful! I didnt mean to start anything :/
Jan 27, 2012
LeeAnn B.
@ Jordan- How much did your kit cost you? And how long did it take you to accumulate it?
Jan 27, 2012
LeeAnn B.
@ Jordan- After reading what you wrote I am seriously considering throwing my lower end makeup away and investing in better quality. Too bad makeup artists, beautylish followers, make up enthusiasts/ what have you couldn't petition to make some regulations as to what goes inside makeup and can be sold to the public. I LOVE that I got to read your comment I am going to fully look into this issue! Thank you for the tip!
Jan 27, 2012
Jordan L.
You know, I thought it would take FOREVER to build a kit, and it took a year or two to get a good situation going for myself...and within a few years I had an amazing kit. I continue to add to it every day!
You know, whatever you believe about drugstore makeup is a personal decision, but from an outside perspective it can be very bad. Particularly BECAUSE this information exists. Some of your higher end clients will reject a makeup artist that they don't see as professional. Again...it's not an issue of money, it's an issue of standards. I get heated about this stuff, but I only say it to help - there's a lot of misinformation going around that has destroyed careers. At the end of the day this is a business, and sadly it's not all fun and games and roses and sunshine lol.
My traveling kit was valued at about $20k before a flight, but that included a few airbrush systems and about 4 full sets of brushes - not to mention more eye shadows than I'll ever use. I carry about half of that regularly. My home kit has now dominated an entire room and I am constantly giving things away. lol. A decent kit - top to bottom from scratch (including brushes) - will cost several hundred to a thousand dollars. If you took one or two wedding jobs, that kit pays for itself! People make a big deal about kits, but a couple jobs can hook you up with a really great situation. Invest in a starter kit, they are great to work with in the meantime and you can easily build on them later!
Jan 27, 2012
Jessica S.
Jordan that is fantastic advice! :D
Feb 01, 2012
Jaimi-lee S.
Im glad you brought all that up jordan! Something i would never have thought about and validates my decision to save and only buy professional products! Thankyou!!
Feb 02, 2012
Jordan L.
Glad I could help! Are any of you going to IMATS? GREAT way to stock up for a hell of a lot less money!
Feb 02, 2012
Shelby T.
Im not going to make it to imats unfortunately it falls at a bad time, im going to the makeup show in chicago tho :)