Is Makeup a Deception?

Nov 24, 2013

Naomi S.

Well everyone has hair issues. lol. my hair is crazy as hell!.. but I think I figured out long time ago I can't look like anyone else so I might as well b ok with looking like me. Lmao. its ok to do your makeup to feel better about yourself or wear extentions cause it makes you feel like you have more control of your hair (cause essentially that's really what it is). but you're still really young and I get where you're coming from cause I rem when I was your age. I was n college by then but my thing was my weight. ppl would say I'll b cute when I gain. like its just n the stars that all blk women get thick. well I didn't so I had to get ok with that. n you will get ok with looking like glam Antonia Scott n not Kim K. dupe.. ;-)
cause rem, men don't kno what the hell they want until you tell them. ;-)

Nov 22, 2013

Antonia S.

Antonia Scott is not hot! I only exude "confidence" with my extensions in and makeup done. My hair was always a big struggle for me growing up, I am mixed race. My mom is Puerto Rican and tried to handle my unruly hair the best she could. Now that I wear extensions I feel like a model, and I add to that with the makeup. When I do my makeup it's almost like "Who do I want to look like today?" rather than "How do I want to look today?"
It's a big self esteem thing for me.

Nov 22, 2013

Naomi S.

@Antonia. I think you said something very telling in this last post.
y do you want to look like Kim Kardashian not Antonia Scott when you go out??... is Antonia Scott not hot Shit?!. y not?.

@gemma, keep working on your friend. that's terrible that she sleeps n product n wakes up early. omg!.
the lady that does my hair has been married over 40yrs. we were telling her assistant last wk when I was there that she needs to not b such a bum around her hubby. I believe in sprucing up. but not getting completely made over so he won't ever see you. jeez..

Nov 21, 2013

Antonia S.

I agree with Shaye. If I had the patience and energy to do my makeup like this everyday I would in a heartbeat, and I do agree with Kitty that there is two forms of makeup. Most women's everyday makeup is meant to hide problems (dark circles, acne, birthmarks, etc.) and to enhance their natural features (pretty green eyes.) Then there is the more heavy makeup Kitty explained.
The line is blurred for me. Most women's special occasion makeup is my everyday face. Most recently, I've gotten sick of waking up at 5am to do my heavy makeup for school. I've started going barefaced to school everyday besides Friday or another day if I have a presentation or something.
I like to go out on the weekends and I wear A LOT of makeup. I think it's deceiving to guys who try to hit on me, because in my head I'm like "Oh boy, if you only knew what I really looked like..." But I do this on purpose. I want to look like Kim Kardashian when I go out, not Antonia Scott.
I think it is really sad that Gemma's friend does not feel comfortable enough around her partner not to wear makeup. It's something a lot of women struggle with. I remember in an interview Katy Perry did the same thing when she was dating Travie McCoy.

Nov 21, 2013

Shaye M.

If it makes her feel better about herself then I don't see a problem with it. If I were capable of doing my makeup as flawless as this I'd also wear the look. She wouldnt wear makeup 24 hours a day so I don't think it's deception although it can be misleading to people who haven't before seen her without makeup but I wouldn't call it deception. I don't feel decieved seeing this, good for her! :)

Nov 21, 2013

Gemma D.

Yip I agree kitty. I talk to my friend about this all the time. I find it so sad that she still dosent feel comfortable in front of her man with no make up. shes been living with him almost a year. I don't understand it. if there's one person you should feel absoloutly comfortable around its your lover. if I didnt feel comfortable being bare faced around my fiance then I would have to ask myself "is he right for me?"

Nov 21, 2013

Kitty K.

My two cents on make up...


Make up to me can be deceptive, but this depends greatly on the situation.

There are two forms of make up, in my opinion.
The first form of makeup would be every day use. Yes, this does include a full face of make up. Even if you just wear it to parties or special events, you've probably worn it often enough to count up to a whole year. This type of makeup is for enhancing natural features, hiding blemishes, making eyes pop, being bold, etc.

Then there is the artistic form... Theater makeup, FX Make up, even the picture you posted would be considered a theatre form in my personal opinion because assuming from the background, she might have a photo shoot or be doing something model related or going on TV.

Now, in order for make up to be deceptive - again my personal opinion - is if she wore that look every single day no matter where she went. There's always a limit to where it becomes beyond. Alma works in the make up industry, creating these so called 'deceptive looks'. I find nothing wrong with it cause it's her career, whether she does it for fun or for kicks.
Graphic Art is another hobby of mine, if I want to paint a random picture for fun there is nothing wrong with that, am I right? If a traditional artist wants to draw or paint something, there is nothing wrong with that - so why is make up any different? It is an art form.

I always send my boyfriend before and after pictures if he isn't with me. ' Is it too much? I don't look like a whole new person, right?'
He doesn't mind whether I wear makeup or not like most men do, because he knows it's something that I love to play with.
But he does make it clear that he prefers my natural face, because it's the face he wants to wake up to every morning. Not a face covered in all kinds of colors and gunk with a pair of false lashes glued on.

Like Gemma said, it's too much once you start going to bed with make up and won't let your lover see how you look like. There's something very wrong with that.

Nov 20, 2013

Alma M.

I don't know what to say about this thread because I feel a sense of Guilt almost like an Accomplice to the makeup Deception LOL after all it's what I do.Guilty for making Fabulous :) Thank for a good read Ladies.

Nov 20, 2013

Lia L.

I think makeup is totally deception for man. Lol but for us is a helper.

Nov 20, 2013

Olivia G.

It's not deception, it's enhancing ones features

Nov 20, 2013

Tania S.

Thats amazing looks beautiful

Nov 20, 2013

Gemma D.

I have a friend who has lived with her partner for almost a year and he still hasnt seen her bare faced with no make up whatsoever. she wakes up before him in the morning to put her full make up on and when she goes to bed at night she wears a light bb cream blusher and mascara. I honestly think its a shame that she can't feel confident enough to be completly herself around the man she loves. and how long could anyone keep that up. I've lived with my fiance 5 years and he has seen me at my worst and I think thats important for yourself most of all.

Nov 20, 2013

Antonia S.

I do agree with the idea of an impression and if a guy showed up to a first date looking like Channing Tatum and the second date he had a beer gut and man boobs, I'd be pissed! I mean I think I'd know what a person actually looks like before I tell them "I love you." But if a girl is wearing heavy makeup everyday and making her man believe that's what she looks like, then one day she slips up and he sees what she really looks like, if he isn't attracted to "the real her" then I think that's grounds to break up with her. It's harsh but true.

Nov 20, 2013

Antonia S.

Hahah Naomi! You are so right! I brought the men up because it is a part of my research project for school. I saw in a study when men thought of natural they said "You know, Kim kardashian!" What the hell?! Granted, Kim is my queen but she is not natural. I think it's because she has a natural looking thick brow, glowing skin and long wispy lashes men think she's natural. When her makeup is toned down she looks like a goddess angel, but it's not natural.

Nov 20, 2013

Isabel M.

And I totally agree with Naomi!

Nov 20, 2013

Isabel M.

Sort of. It helps build confidence And it inspires self love. Honestly In my opinion makeup should be used to HIGHLIGHT your features, and bring them out. Not to cover them and look completely different. It's more of an opinion than anything though.

Nov 20, 2013

Lauren G.

Hahaha this is all entirely too much.

Nov 20, 2013

Naomi S.

One thing that I've noticed from jump is that this girl looks pissed n both her before n after pic. I wonder what's going on with that.

Nov 20, 2013

Naomi S.

Ok, so I've been skipping around this thread reading stuff randomly. just a disclaimer.
I just read what Antonia was saying about me. wanting natural girls.
first off. men are confused. they don't know what they want. lol. (rule of life). they say they want natural n independent. they don't. lol. they all think they can pull Halle berry. they live in constant dissolution. ;-)

Nov 20, 2013

Kat A.

@Antonia you have a good man then! you want the kind of guy who loves you for you, not what you do to yourself. I think for guys it'd be more just the way they dress, do their hair, & even act. like guys act like having "hoes" & whatnot is the way to live because cool rappers talk about it in all their songs. that's a way they change themselves to appear a certain way or attract certain kinds of people.

Nov 20, 2013

Kat A.

I wish I could be famous so I could inspire girls all over to love themselves as they are. lol.

Nov 20, 2013

Kat A.

@LiliR I don't understand where the plastic surgery thing is coming from. yes, media tries to set a certain standard, but there are also standards you naturally set just because you're human. I wish media would show women how they really are, their natural beauty. I don't try to change myself to fit in to what's beautiful. I barely wear make up. just mascara, concealer, powder, & if I'm feeling fancy eye liner & eyeshadow. usually I'm bare faced though. my boyfriend sees me like that every day. our roommate/his bff sees me like that too. I'm not ashamed. I wish more women were proud of their natural beauty.

Nov 20, 2013

Naomi S.

*looks

Nov 20, 2013

Naomi S.

^exactly what gemma Said.
if you met a dude n got him undressed and a belly popped out, granny butt, and pecks turned into boobs you'll pass out!.. I'm being a little silly here but seriously. you can't pull an entire transformation. leave that for celebs. in real life its cool to enhance n cover imperfections but you come back with a completely different face shape. that girl like 10lbs smaller just by the dimensions that were added to her face. that's fine if she's about to do a movie but the men you attract with look 2 is not the guy that's going to stick around for look 1. let's just b real about it..
that guy that meets you looking like look 1 (add bb cream, mascara n a smudge of lipstick/tinted balm) is more likely to b a more solid guy.

Nov 20, 2013

CPT- Lili R.

I'm out of this conversation but interesting topic there is sure a lot of debating on it have a good one ladies =D.