Jul 09, 2012
Jul 10, 2012
Dude. I completely agree with you, but people already think animal activists are crackjobs, we really don't need you or PETA justifying those stereotypes. Nobody listens when you shout and use gross pictures. They think you're forcing your opinion on them. Be a bit more subtle, yeah?
Silly scientists, you can't plug your monitor into a kitty cat!
Uh, yeah, capitalising some words and using pictures like that is basically gonna make you attract all kinds of trolls that WANT to upset you.
I actually disagree with you guys. Yes, probably this post will attract a lot of trolls, but at the same time it will attract people who will really look into this problem and realize how actually cruel the animal testing is. Like me: I didn't know how actually disgusting that is and I am thinking to make a list of makeup companies who don't test on animals and buy products from them only!!! And I wish I can help these poor animals and save them all!!! These effin scientists think about money only and dont have a heart
@AITHNE I understand where you're coming from when you say, force your opinion, because I can be very aggressive and or very headstrong when I'm trying to get something out there, but I'm not sorry for it because no one is listening and it's not because the way I'm saying it because that would just be ignorant. I don't care how I say it really just as long as I SAY it and it's OUT there and people read it and then they know, they can either STOP and HELP or continue. Thanks for reading!
@Aferdita well it hasn't yet and I disagree, but thanks for reading!
@Sofia THANK YOU! Instead of you all looking at what's wrong why don't you just read it and DO IT? It's that simple and helpful. I don't care if I caps things a lot because I don't take it as yelling and that is so irrelevant to me in a situation like this. And that's AWESOME Sofia! Thanks for pitching in and thanks for reading!
If you're going to stop purchasing from any companies that engage in testing, then you should just throw out ALL your makeup. Here's why I say that...
Every ingredient in cosmetics has been tested on animals at some point over the last several decades. That's how consumers and formulators learned about ingredient safety. Try as you might, even if a company bills itself as vegan and/or "cruelty-free", it's because of animal testing they've been able to use all the ingredients they use. So they've benefited from it even though they may not engage in the practice themselves.
Also, if you're going to go "cruelty-free" with your makeup, why not take it a step further and go vegan in your food choices? There's loads of information out there about what many animals reared for food have to go through during their lives.
In unrelated news, I think PETA are a bunch of hypocrites. They kill the vast majority of the animals they rescue simply because they can't find homes for them (see petakillsanimals.com). Also? The vast majority of their advertising objectifies women, not to mention their tactics are f*cking ridiculous. There's a reason they're considered by some to be akin to a terrorist group.
IMO, there are better ways to protest animal cruelty. Why not volunteer for an animal rescue organization? Or at a no-kill animal shelter?
Shelly, hahah, I always agree with you. I love how, like me, you're skeptical to various topics. Yet I admire the passion these girls have for this cause. They stand up and speak for what they believe in, and that I can admire.
I have to agree with Shelly and her above comment. One way or another man-made chemicals used in cruelty-free products have been animal tested. There is no avoiding that. I'm a animal lover and owner of a four-legged child myself and animal testing saved my life. A few years ago I battled stomach cancer and the drugs they gave me to fight it were tested on animals. At the time I had two young kids and I was fighting for my life...I wasn't going to say no just because I knew that they were tested on animals. Even before that battle I always took in animals till I could get them into a no kill facility and even in my own neighborhood people come to my husband and I with animals because they know that we will care for them. I've learned to not judge others in regards to this debate because there are people in this world who do other things in the fight to protect and save our four-legged friends.
Shelley, I had no idea you have gone through that much, I can't even begin to imagine that..
Did you know that PETA's vice-president is a diabetic who use to use pig insulin for decades? To me PETA are hypocrites. I appreciate that they want to help animals but at the same time the only true way to help animals is by wiping out humanity. Everything we do harms animals - that computer you're using (the processors inside ALL computers, laptops, tablets, cellphones are made of GOLD... gold mining is one of the most damaging types of mining since most are strip mines), that house you live took the land from animals, that water you drink has been taken from fish and other aquatic life, those clothes you wear... if it's natural fibers then the land was taken from animals, if it's synthetic then all the chemicals used displaced or harmed an animal. Even if you're a vegan the food you eat was grown some place which the land was taken from animals and the water used taken from animals again. Do you brush your teeth? Most toothpaste is made from companies that have tested on animals. Do you wash dishes? That dish soap you're using might have been made by a company that tested on animals. How about this personal question... Do you have your period? Those sanitary napkins and tampons are made by companies that once upon a time tested on animals or whose parent company tests on animals. Even if you use one of those cups that you insert during your period and remove to empty the blood and wash out.... the chemicals used to create it was tested on animals.
Do I use products that are made by companies with a history of animal testing? Yes I do. Do I love animals? Yes I do. I'm also not against animal testing in the medical field - I don't find it necessary in cosmetics - but I do believe that if an animals sacrifice is done to save a life then it's worth it.
My brother died from cancer - Osteosarcoma - because the type he had did not have, at the time of his death, any treatments. It was a slow and painful death for him and nothing I would wish upon anyone else. He died before he was 18 and before he had the chance to really live his life. He had plans to go to college and work for NASA and he never had the chance. He begged my mother to kill him near the end but she didn't and it was a relief to him when he finally did die. So I'm 100% for animal testing in the medical field. Without their sacrifices countless lives suffer in pain and die slow deaths which to me is far worse.
Good post. Btw she had to take that insulin to prevent herself from going into a coma, so that's understandable. ^^
I agree with Shelly T, Shelley W and Yasmin here. My thoughts all exact. We all love animals, and it is extremely unfair to think someone who DOES buy products that are known to be tested on animals, doesn't care about them.
The written post is very offensive, bold letters, judgmental and of course the typical horrific picture included. In my opinion it seems like you have just found out about this and seem frantic. It is an ongoing issue. Helping people to understand the issue should be done in a different way. Like stated before, PETA and others are very questionable at times, and I really suggest doing some more research on the topic.
Whether we like it or not, everything we own comes from animals, the environment or synthetically produced.
I think instead of focusing on just cosmetic testing we should focus on helping the entire environment as a whole. Recycling, clean air, different ways to make things, renewable/reuseable resources and conservation of all things. And I do hope you recycle, because most of that trash goes right into animals environments, especially the ocean. Helping the environment is extremely important to me. Again, there is no way to completely avoid harming animals, it is just impossible. Like Yasmin said, nearly everything is related to them some how. The medicines they have aided scientists to create have saved lives.
Do I try to buy only cruelty/vegan products? Yes of course I do, and almost everything I use daily is. It is extremely hard to avoid products that test on animals, especially when one company owns such a huge chunk of them all. Supporting cruelty/vegan free cosmetic companies is a great help and I encourage it.
Do I eat meat and non vegan things? Yes. It is unfair to say I don't care about animals or that I am for animal cruelty though. I love animals. I have pets, I've taken in animals and I've cared for wild animals, hell I even worked in a zoo. I'm doing my best to help out, through recycling, being as green as possible in my daily life, supporting cruelty free brands, donating to charities and taking care of animals. So I'd really appreciate not being judged for still using some prodcuts, or be thought of as an animal hater.
Jul 11, 2012
I know MOST things are tested on animals and have been tested. So I'm taking it step by step and doing my part by stopping with the makeup brands that test on animals. I'm only 15 and I can only do so much at this age in a situation like this and if you were me you could understand that. Haha. Also, I didn't say everyone has to throw away their products and I didn't tell anyone to STOP either, but I am gonna let everyone know who is testing and who isn't. And I don't compare MAKEUP to MEDICINE. Sometimes we gotta take one for the team and sadly it's the animals that do it but thanks to them we have all this so in the medicine category it doesn't bother me as much but MAKEUP, it DOES big time. I feel like it's wrong that we buy all this makeup just to look pretty or whatever other reason I don't care really cause we CAN live without it OR you we can buy from animal cruelty free brands. At the end of the day, we ALL know what I'm saying and what I'm talking about and what I mean. Thanks for reading EVERYONE!
BTW - some of the cosmetics you've mentioned as "PRODUCTS THAT DO NOT TEST ON ANIMALS" is not 100% accurate.
Milani - no leaping bunny logo from the CCIC and no Cruelty Free logo from PETA. Some products do contain beeswax.
ELF - does have a Cruelty Free logo from PETA but no Leaping Bunny logo from the CCIC.
Revlon - Animal tests
Sephora - most brands there have parent companies that do animal test either in cosmetics or other products.
Almay - owned by Revlon
It's nice that you're trying to educated others but you need to educate yourself FIRST.
OMG totally forgot to mention that! You're right on that one! I don't know FOR SURE. I was just going off of what PETA said but how could I find that out anyway. And thanks!
Which goes to the point that PETA isn't to be trusted. ;) The CCIC is a better resource than PETA. The CCIC are made up of the following organizations:
American Anti-Vivisection Society
Animal Alliance of Canada
Beauty Without Cruelty, USA: (212) 989-8073
Doris Day Animal League
The Humane Society of Canada
The Humane Society of the United States
MSPCA Center for Laboratory Animal Welfare
New England Anti-Vivisection Society
Maybe they aren't. I will check those out later! Thanks!
I love animals, I do. However If you don't agree with companies testing on animals, are you also a vegetarian?
I agree with a lot of people on here. peta are a bunch of hypocrites and this comes from a vegetarian animal lover. They have no credibility
I'm really glad that the majority of us here seem to know that PETA is no good.
Their campaigns absolutely fucking disgust me(I'm so sorry for the language, but I really can't stand PETA and their lies).
"Saving animals" when they kill so many of the ones they take in. And also their horrible, sexist campaigns (comparing humans that milk cows to women being raped...).
I love animals with all my heart, but I just cannot stand PETA, I will never approve of them.
I dont want to. I have honestly never looked at a lable to see who does though? do you know?
for the above I was asking which ones in saphora do the animal testing?
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