May 07, 2012
Angela C. said it best!!! We can't have 100% faith in the companies being honest. Their bottom line is to make money. Its cool to be aware and respecting our four-legged friends but for me personally stressing about whether a product is vegan or cruelty-free isn't keeping me up at night. There are way more important pressing issues in society that need to be of greater concerned....missing kids/adults for example.
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May 09, 2012
I guess my thing is I don't want to support someone who is actively testing on animals. I understand that products may have been tested/derived from animals in the past. However, that doesn't mean companies have to continue that trend.
May 10, 2012
There are several companies (already mentioned) that don't do animal testing now. There are also companies mentioned (such as Coastal Scents) that are ethical in other practices as well, and therefore worth supporting aside from the benefit of rewarding them for not needlessly harming animals.
I heard that sugar pill is vegan as well I could be wrong
Jun 12, 2012
Urban Decay is no longer cruelty free :(
You can read my post about the issue here: http://www.izntlifesojuicy.com/2012...
My favorite cruelty brands are tarte, Korres, NARS, Stila and Revlon. Revlon is still considered cruelty-free on leapingbunny.org.
Well I like e.l.f, Hard Candy and Obsessive Compulsive Cosmetics :)
I like Too Faced, Urban Decay, Revlon, NYX Cosmetics, Clinique. All of those are in PETA's list of cruelty free companies.
Urban Decay sells in China now that requires animal testing on products sold there.
Although yes we can never be sure about companies testing it's just sad how companies who were actively passionate about animal rights since the founding of their company have sold out just for the money.
@Marilyn C. Urban Decay and Estee Lauder companies (such as Clinique, Smashbox & MAC) have been removed from PETA's list as well as The Leaping Bunny due to their decision to sell in China :(
The rest you listed however, are still ok to the best of my knowledge.
Jun 14, 2012
I know! I saw that and almost cried. Why Urban Decay WHHHYYYY!!!
This is such a hit or miss topic. Mac cosmetics now tests on animals which about drop and killed me this year. *sign still hurts! But when it comes to makeup i have went with some awesome indie companies that do there research and make sure there supplies and makeup are not tested on animals.
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Professional brands i do stick with Mineral lines that state they do not test on animals like Pur' Minerals (they still dont right ladies??) Urban Decay, Real Techniques brushes are the best are vegan!
Jun 19, 2012
I'd be careful making blanket statements about brands like Smashbox and Urban Decay that are still bearing their Leaping Bunny tags and have been front-runners in the popularity and widespread use of the Leaping Bunny in higher end retail cosmetics. You never know who is watching, and I can tell you point blank that there are a lot of misrepresented facts as well as false information in this thread.
I won't jump in on the China debate, but WILL say that this is an issue with the Chinese government and not necessarily the brands sold there. And many of the brands listed, as mentioned, still rock the cruelty-free bunny.
And mineral companies? They are often times some of the worst offenders of deforestation, animal cruelty, and false advertising. I won't mention names, but one of the top mineral makeup lines that advertises "100% natural minerals" uses chemicals, "non-minerals," and allergens in every product except their foundations, which use minerals that are mined in a way that is extremely damaging to the environment. In fact, almost all "natural" lines aren't natural almost at all - the FDA only requires cosmetic companies to be 3% natural to make that claim. 3%. This is how companies get away with selling chemicals in a pretty green box to people that want to buy something they think is better for them. 100% marketing - and it works!
This is why most pro artists don't use minerals. Aside from minerals' poor performance on camera, they know that it is a fad based in marketing, not fact.
NO company is perfect. Your choice is to do the best you can with what exists, or choose a different hobby/career. Or better yet - get a law degree and get involved!
Even VEGAN companies are guilty of deforestation for their packaging, often times use plastics that aren't bio-degradable, and attaining "natural" ingredients can often times cause damage to the environment. Basically - we could go on all day about the "evils" of companies until we are blue in the face. I think we have bigger fish to fry, personally - there are far more sinister industries than cosmetics. Even hair products are exponentially worse. Many keratin treatments have formaldehyde in them and have led to some pretty serious health threats. More than you can say for your average lipstick.
Threads like this always end up splitting hairs until we all reach the conclusion that no one agrees on any company, and every company is evil. The best we can do is look for the Leaping Bunny, read the labels to see "not tested on animals," and beef up on our chemistry to know the ingredients to watch out for.
I think it's great that we are in a generation of smarter consumers, but there's a line between smart and completely paranoid. Makeup should be more fun than this - lighten up! Read your labels and play on!
Just my $.02. Hopefully it helps.
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Jun 20, 2012
Thing is: Everything is a chemical, including the water in your faucet or that you buy at the grocery store (dihydrogen monoxide, anyone?). Heck, our bodies are made up of chemicals (we exhale carbon dioxide daily). IMO, this argument against any company is invalid.
For once, Shelley and I agree! I feel the same - we could go on all day about chemicals - let's all enjoy the summer weather and focus on bigger topics....like world hunger. :)
Jun 21, 2012
Everything is chemical sure but not everything is harmful (or not in moderation). I wasn't even talking about chemicals. I started this whole thread just to see what companies attempt to eliminate animal testing, which is unnecessary and cruel. I would like to support groups that have similar interests to my own and I believe in taking care of those who can't/need help taking care of themselves and animals fall in there. It isn't a bad idea when starting to ask others opinions to give you a starting point to research.
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